Leadership

Employer Brand Is the Promise. Culture Is the Proof.

Jamie Gier

A few months ago, I joined culture expert and Talent Elevated, LLC CEO Heather Smith on the Culture by Design podcast for a conversation about employer brand, leadership and culture. It’s a topic I’ve cared deeply about for years. Today, it feels even more relevant.

This summer, IKS Health closed its acquisition of my company, TruBridge. Last week, leaders from across the combined organization came together in Dallas to continue the important work of integration and align around where we’re headed next. Culture was one of the topics on the table, and I found myself thinking again about that conversation with Heather and one idea in particular:

Employer brand is the promise. Culture is the proof.

For years, companies tended to treat brand and culture as two separate disciplines. Brand lived in Marketing. Culture lived in HR. I don’t think that distinction works anymore.

Employees experience both, and customers ultimately experience both. During moments of significant organizational change, like an acquisition, the distance between what a company says and what people actually experience becomes especially visible.

Three key points from that conversation feel especially relevant now.

1. Your employees ultimately prove whether your brand is true.

Companies invest enormous amounts of time defining their brands: the promise they make, the experience they want to create and the values they want associated with their name. But employees are the people who make those things real.

They are interacting with customers, solving problems, responding when something goes wrong and making thousands of small decisions every day that either reinforce the brand promise or quietly undermine it.

That is why I’ve come to believe the strongest companies are those where there is real alignment between what they say externally and what employees experience internally.

And the signs of misalignment usually aren’t hidden. Look at customer NPS, retention, referrals and reviews. Then look at employee engagement and attrition. I said during the podcast that companies should rarely be surprised when their brand health is suffering. The warning signs are usually there if we are willing to look for them.

We tend to think of culture metrics as “people data” and customer metrics as “business data,” but I think that separation is increasingly artificial. An unhappy, disengaged workforce eventually finds its way into the customer experience. Taking care of employees isn’t separate from taking care of customers. It is part of how you do it.

2. Culture is tested most when organizations change.

Culture is relatively easy to talk about when things are going well. It becomes much more meaningful when things are uncertain. An acquisition. Rapid growth. A restructuring. A leadership transition. A new operating model.

Those are the moments when employees start asking very human questions: What does this mean for me? Why is this happening? Where are we going? Do I still belong here? Do I trust the people leading us? Do I have a voice in decisions being made?

One concept I talked about on the podcast was emotional equity.

Organizations build emotional equity with employees over time. It comes from the accumulated experience of being communicated with honestly, being treated fairly, having a voice in decisions, understanding the mission, believing in leadership and feeling that your work matters.

That equity becomes incredibly valuable during periods of change. When people have confidence in the organization and its leaders, they are more willing to stay through ambiguity. They may not agree with every decision, but they are more likely to give leadership the benefit of the doubt and continue moving forward.

That doesn’t mean leaders need to have every answer. Often, they won’t. But clarity matters. Explain why the change is happening. Share what you know. Be honest about what you don’t know. Keep communicating. Keep listening. Give them a reason to believe.

And, maybe most importantly, stay present.

Before so many of us moved into hybrid and remote environments, I used to encourage executives to simply walk the halls. Spend 30 minutes talking to people and ask how they’re doing. Listen.

Today, that may look like skip-level conversations, smaller virtual sessions, Teams or Slack interactions, or creating more opportunities for employees to connect directly with leaders. The CEOs of IKS Health and TruBridge, for example, have gone on the road to spend time with employees and customers, listening firsthand to what people are experiencing and what is on their minds. People want to be seen, and they want to be heard.

There is also a business reason this matters enormously during an acquisition: your employees are the ones taking care of your customers while the organization itself is changing.

I shared a story on the podcast from an acquisition earlier in my career. A business leader showed employees data demonstrating what often happens to customer satisfaction following an acquisition: sadly, the trend tends to go down. His message was simple: We need your help protecting our customers through this change. But first, leadership had to take care of the employees being asked to do it.

I have never forgotten that.

3. Culture belongs to every leader.

One of the easiest mistakes organizations make is assigning culture to HR, assuming the CEO owns it, or treating employer brand as a communications initiative. None of those are enough. Every people manager shapes culture, and every executive should be accountable for it.

If employee engagement scores are low in a business unit, leaders should know why. If strong employees are leaving, leaders should understand what is driving it. If customer retention or productivity begins slipping, executives should be curious about whether the employee experience is contributing to the problem. Culture should sit alongside the other indicators leadership teams use to understand the health of the business.

There is another leadership lesson buried inside this, and it is one I have carried with me for years. A CEO I once worked for told me, “When you walk into the executive room, take off your functional hat.”

Yes, I might be the CMO. But my responsibility in that room is bigger than Marketing. I should have a perspective on the product roadmap, financial performance, talent, customer experience, where we invest and what tradeoffs we make.

And my peers should have a perspective on brand and culture.

That is what leadership teams are supposed to do: bring their collective experience to solving the company’s biggest problems rather than protecting their individual functions.

Culture works the same way. It becomes more powerful when it stops belonging to one department and becomes part of how the leadership team runs the business.

A final margin note

There’s one more line from that conversation I think matters here.

You don’t have to have the loudest brand. You need to have the clearest and most believable one.

We were talking about smaller companies competing for talent against much larger organizations, but I think the idea applies much more broadly.

People are remarkably good at recognizing the difference between a brand promise and lived experience. Employees are. Customers are too.

And especially during periods of change, the goal isn’t to convince people that everything will remain the same. It won’t. The goal is to remain clear about who you are, thoughtful about where you’re going and intentional about how you bring people with you.

Because ultimately, employer brand is the promise. Culture is the proof.

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